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ACTA- The end of Internet
The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) is an international agreement that was signed by Australia, Canada, Japan, Korea, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and the United States. It was negotiated behind closed doors from 2006-2010.
Public Knowledge’s Position
This international agreement may sound uncontroversial, but, in fact, raises many questions and poses a significant threat to the public interest. Everyone can agree that it is important to internationally enforce laws against large-scale commercial counterfeiting and piracy—protecting against things like trademark-infringing knock-offs and dangerous counterfeit drugs. However, there are several fundamental problems with the process and content of the ACTA that raise significant concerns.
Process concerns include:
• Lack of transparency. The Agreement is a multilateral intellectual property treaty that has been styled as a trade agreement in order to justify the secrecy of its negotiations, but there is absolutely no reason why the negotiations should be taking place behind closed doors.
•Lack of democratic process. This treaty would implement sweeping legal changes around the world, bypassing existing international intellectual property organizations, like the World Intellectual Property Organization and the World Trade Organization, and without approval by the U.S. Congress. This means that the treaty could potentially lead to several controversial changes to U.S. law without any democratic legislative process.
•Lack of public input. Who does have a say in the negotiations? Plenty of unelected officials and an Industry Trade Advisory Committee, made up of entirely corporate interest groups like the RIAA and Verizon. Groups like Public Knowledge have had to fight tooth and nail to even gain access to the text, much less talk freely about it. Despite the fact that the Agreement has huge implications for the public, few substantive steps have been taken to inform, engage, or even consider the public interest.
The content of the treaty is deeply concerning in several ways. The treaty goes beyond its intended purpose and extends its reach beyond pure enforcement into the realm of real legal reform. Here are just a few of the problems that would have real consequences for the consumer:
•Its language is vague and key terms, like “counterfeit” and “piracy” are never clearly defined. This lack of definitions means that there is no clear standard to differentiate between large-scale commercial infringement and ordinary, unintentional acts of infringement. Plus, by over-using and mis-using the term “counterfeit”, it puts generic drugs at risk of being considered illegal and even confiscated at borders, threatening global access to affordable medicine.
•It would implement a regime of statutory damages that are both disproportionate to the crime and absent any balancing limitations. The Agreement proposes the use of over-zealous and disproportionate statutory damages that would prevent future domestic reform by Congress because the provisions would be tied to an international agreement. It also contains no safeguards or exceptions in cases of innocent infringement.
•Criminal penalties for “significant willful” copyright infringements that have no “direct or indirect motivation of financial gain” may have grave implications for individual users. This is particularly concerning given that the Agreement doesn’t include any limitations on copyright and trademark enforcement, like the provision of fair use, that are an essential part of U.S. law.
•It would permit signatory countries to search electronic devices at border controls to search for infringing material. This is an opt-out policy. The text provides for the possibility of an exception from border searches for personal baggage, but a country is not required to have this exception—it is merely permitted to have one.
The greatest concern over ACTA is that it purports to ratchet up protections for IP rights holders without even the barest measures to preserve either the balance in IP law or due process rights of citizens. Without going through any pre-existing avenues of legal change—whether domestic or international—this treaty may be considered an act of “policy laundering.” That is, the use of an international treaty to justify the passage of controversial legislation within one’s own country.
The USTR claimed that the treaty would “color within the lines of U.S. law,” but the text and the negotiations process itself, which continues to proceed with the highest level of secrecy, raise concerns that cannot be ignored.
This is bad news, for a lot of people and websites. this one included
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Lets just say that they though SOPA and PIPA would pass too.. they didn't.
We are living in an age of rebellion. People are becoming more and more aware of other nation's governments being debunked by their populace. This is empowering, especially when it's common knowledge we have groups like Anonymous to f*ck with government figures. Yes, Anonymous does work overseas, the internet has no limits to a hacker.
I'm not putting my complete faith in hacker groups, or condone ALL of their actions, however currently these particular ones are on the right path to at least some reward. Most of my faith goes into the stubbornness of humans. If you push us too hard, we push back. Especially against other humans.
We are living in an age of rebellion. People are becoming more and more aware of other nation's governments being debunked by their populace. This is empowering, especially when it's common knowledge we have groups like Anonymous to f*ck with government figures. Yes, Anonymous does work overseas, the internet has no limits to a hacker.
I'm not putting my complete faith in hacker groups, or condone ALL of their actions, however currently these particular ones are on the right path to at least some reward. Most of my faith goes into the stubbornness of humans. If you push us too hard, we push back. Especially against other humans.
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Maybe in your country people are getting aware, because in my country people are getting more stupid as time passes by
Here people only care about some f*ck tv shows and any bullshit on a very know channel here
I really don't like to say it but my country is a shit and most of people are manipulated by Television Network and guess what? Nothing about sopa/pipa or any other bill was shown on any tv news or newspaper.
I think sopa/pipa is only an excuse for they to lock the internet, I heard that sopa/pipa was abolished but the thing is after this I heard that FileSonic is also been shutting down right now.
I don't know if the rumor about FileSonic is true, but check his site there have an unusual warning. http://www.filesonic.com/
Here people only care about some f*ck tv shows and any bullshit on a very know channel here
I really don't like to say it but my country is a shit and most of people are manipulated by Television Network and guess what? Nothing about sopa/pipa or any other bill was shown on any tv news or newspaper.
I think sopa/pipa is only an excuse for they to lock the internet, I heard that sopa/pipa was abolished but the thing is after this I heard that FileSonic is also been shutting down right now.
I don't know if the rumor about FileSonic is true, but check his site there have an unusual warning. http://www.filesonic.com/
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Speaking of Anonymous:
People are just going to put there faith in Anonymous now.
People are just going to put there faith in Anonymous now.
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Here is total Revolution. People protesting in the capital 24/7. I like it .
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I don't want to read that much.
But anyway, people should be internet with their real names.
But anyway, people should be internet with their real names.
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S wrote:I don't want to read that much.
But anyway, people should be internet with their real names.
What the f*ck did he just say?
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C4Blizzard wrote:S wrote:I don't want to read that much.
But anyway, people should be internet with their real names.
What the f*ck did he just say?
Internet would be way cleaner place if you couldn't perv around with your anonymity
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Hi random stalker of the internet, here is my real name and address , come and stalk me.
Nope...it wouldn't work. Privacy is a right.
Nope...it wouldn't work. Privacy is a right.
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Well, if everyone uses their real names, who could stalk you?
Do you think that someone really cares about your favourite pornsites?
There are lots of youngster with hate thoughts, posting to sites like 4chan. Then other people with social disablities encourage them to continue their hate towards e.g. jewish.
They would not do that with their real names.
Or do you usually go to the mall and scream "I FUCKING HATE THOSE FILTHY ASIANS?"
Do you think that someone really cares about your favourite pornsites?
There are lots of youngster with hate thoughts, posting to sites like 4chan. Then other people with social disablities encourage them to continue their hate towards e.g. jewish.
They would not do that with their real names.
Or do you usually go to the mall and scream "I FUCKING HATE THOSE FILTHY ASIANS?"
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random people cant get your name/adress etc in real life either though
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"Hey Mark, what is the name of that hot girl?"
"Its Jocelyn McPeppermint, I knew her from highschool"
"Its Jocelyn McPeppermint, I knew her from highschool"
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oh snap c4
hes really thinking that hes anonymous the internet ^
hes really thinking that hes anonymous the internet ^
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oh no! i cant imagine life without redtube!
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lol Bizzy acting tough on the interwebs. He must be working out at the gym every day to teach all of those intornet scumbags a serious lesson about how TRU MEN live their life. That's why he posts so much on the forums and cares about what we write, right guys?
We don't have to mess with Bizzy though, he's damn intimidating when angry
But, aside from the human failures in the thread, I don't think about ACTA as the 'death' of Internet. Quite the contrary, it would be a new beginning - a challenge for the underground groups and a massive cleanup of technically unconscious people from the web. If SOPA passed, it would have been only a signal for some major domains to switch their server priority to overseas, just a few buttons and some travel expenditures; but if this passes, it will be a whole damn cyberwar. I'm willing to see if the governments are actually prepared for dealing with Anonymous.
And not the Anonymous you know of, no - those are just their lazy pranks they do out of boredom and to polish their skills. DDOS a government website? Piece of cake. Humiliate a major domain? No problem.
When Anonymous gets serious, the results are dire. They hacked PSN, Nintendo, Xbox live, and other console networks subsequently in a matter of months, revealing all personal user data, security and credit card numbers etc. That's what they can -actually- do. And much more than that even.
You won't find those guys anywhere though, not even the government would - they inhabit the deep web, the Tor exit nodes, and the onion domains. And they will make the governments regret this decision.
Also, regarding the statement that all Anonymous are just prodigal hacker kids - that's entirely wrong. There are some major players in their ranks as well. The same could be said for pretty much any group associated with the internet; for example, USA Congress representatives play League of Legends, and when Riot games declared their opposition to SOPA, they have supported the company. I have a prooflink for this as well.
All that said, the age of online legislation is a shaky period, a transition between two states of internet's existence - and I am sure that whether it turns this or that way, the results would still be great.
We don't have to mess with Bizzy though, he's damn intimidating when angry
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But, aside from the human failures in the thread, I don't think about ACTA as the 'death' of Internet. Quite the contrary, it would be a new beginning - a challenge for the underground groups and a massive cleanup of technically unconscious people from the web. If SOPA passed, it would have been only a signal for some major domains to switch their server priority to overseas, just a few buttons and some travel expenditures; but if this passes, it will be a whole damn cyberwar. I'm willing to see if the governments are actually prepared for dealing with Anonymous.
And not the Anonymous you know of, no - those are just their lazy pranks they do out of boredom and to polish their skills. DDOS a government website? Piece of cake. Humiliate a major domain? No problem.
When Anonymous gets serious, the results are dire. They hacked PSN, Nintendo, Xbox live, and other console networks subsequently in a matter of months, revealing all personal user data, security and credit card numbers etc. That's what they can -actually- do. And much more than that even.
You won't find those guys anywhere though, not even the government would - they inhabit the deep web, the Tor exit nodes, and the onion domains. And they will make the governments regret this decision.
Also, regarding the statement that all Anonymous are just prodigal hacker kids - that's entirely wrong. There are some major players in their ranks as well. The same could be said for pretty much any group associated with the internet; for example, USA Congress representatives play League of Legends, and when Riot games declared their opposition to SOPA, they have supported the company. I have a prooflink for this as well.
All that said, the age of online legislation is a shaky period, a transition between two states of internet's existence - and I am sure that whether it turns this or that way, the results would still be great.
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Oh yeah, TOR, I used that once. All the weird Pedo's use it for CP. I found some pretty cool Tutorials on there though. And I'm pretty curious as to how the Silk Road works.
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Go Poland
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Good news for Poland
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Tusk-Zawieszamy-proces-ratyfikacji-ACTA-2481998.html
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Tusk-Zawieszamy-proces-ratyfikacji-ACTA-2481998.html
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Eeyup.
Apparently when even prime minister's children are against ACTA, he notices something's not right.
Apparently when even prime minister's children are against ACTA, he notices something's not right.
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google translater your best friend in misery ^^
good news for poland though
good news for poland though
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not only Poland has this problem..
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