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Two most famous couples
by ACE KyoUno February 27th 2010, 11:24 pm
Romeo and Juliet... Tristan and Isolde... Two couples with nearly same story who are known world-wide.
Who do you like more? My vote goes to Romeo and Juliet cos Tristan and Isolde are too... tragic?
Romeo and Juliet
Tristan and Isolde
Who do you like more? My vote goes to Romeo and Juliet cos Tristan and Isolde are too... tragic?
Romeo and Juliet
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The play, set in Verona, begins with a street brawl between Montagues and Capulets. The Prince of Verona intervenes and declares that further breach of the peace will be punishable by death. Later, Count Paris talks to Lord Capulet about marrying his daughter, but Capulet is wary of the request because Juliet is only thirteen. Capulet asks Paris to wait another two years and invites him to attend a planned Capulet ball. Lady Capulet and Juliet's nurse try to persuade Juliet to accept Paris' courtship.
Meanwhile, at the house of Montague, Benvolio talks with his cousin Romeo, Lord Montague's son, about Romeo's recent depression. Benvolio discovers that it stems from unrequited infatuation for a girl named Rosaline, one of Lord Capulet's nieces. Persuaded by Benvolio and Mercutio, Romeo attends the ball at the Capulet house in hopes of meeting Rosaline. However, Romeo instead meets and falls in love with Juliet. After the ball, in what is now called the "balcony scene", Romeo sneaks into the Capulet courtyard and overhears Juliet on her balcony vowing her love to him in spite of her family's hatred of the Montagues. Romeo makes himself known to her and they agree to be married. With the help of Friar Laurence, who hopes to reconcile the two families through their children's union, they are secretly married the next day.
Juliet's cousin Tybalt, incensed that Romeo had sneaked into the Capulet ball, challenges him to a duel. Romeo, now considering Tybalt his kinsman, refuses to fight. Mercutio is offended by Tybalt's insolence, as well as Romeo's "vile submission",[4] and accepts the duel on Romeo's behalf. Mercutio is fatally wounded when Romeo attempts to break up the fight. Grief-stricken and wracked with guilt, Romeo confronts and slays Tybalt.
Montague argues that Romeo has justly executed Tybalt for the murder of Mercutio. The Prince, now having lost a kinsman in the warring families' feud, exiles Romeo from Verona and declares that if Romeo returns, "that hour is his last". Romeo secretly spends the night in Juliet's chamber, where they consummate their marriage. Lord Capulet, misinterpreting Juliet's grief, agrees to marry her to Count Paris and threatens to disown her when she refuses to become Paris's "joyful bride". When she then pleads for the marriage to be delayed, her mother rejects her.
Juliet visits Friar Laurence for help, and he offers her a drug that will put her into a death-like coma for "two and forty hours".[5] The Friar promises to send a messenger to inform Romeo of the plan, so that he can rejoin her when she awakens. On the night before the wedding, she takes the drug and, when discovered apparently dead, she is laid in the family crypt.
The messenger, however, does not reach Romeo and, instead, he learns of Juliet's apparent death from his servant Balthasar. Heartbroken, Romeo buys poison from an apothecary and goes to the Capulet crypt. He encounters Paris who has come to mourn Juliet privately. Believing Romeo to be a vandal, Paris confronts him and, in the ensuing battle, Romeo kills Paris. Still believing Juliet to be dead, he drinks the poison. Juliet then awakens and, finding Romeo dead, stabs herself with his dagger. The feuding families and the Prince meet at the tomb to find all three dead. Friar Laurence recounts the story of the two "star-cross'd lovers". The families are reconciled by their children's deaths and agree to end their violent feud. The play ends with the Prince's elegy for the lovers: "For never was a story of more woe / Than this of Juliet and her Romeo."
Tristan and Isolde
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- Wiki wrote:Wagner was forced to abandon his position as conductor of the Dresden Opera in 1849, as there was a warrant posted for his arrest for his participation in the unsuccessful May Revolution. He left his wife, Minna, in Dresden, and fled to Zurich. There, in 1852, he met the wealthy silk trader Otto Wesendonck. Wesendonck became a supporter of Wagner and bankrolled the composer for several years. Wesendonck's wife, Mathilde, became enamoured of the composer. Though Wagner was working on his epic Der Ring des Nibelungen, he found himself intrigued by the legend of Tristan und Isolde.
The re-discovery of medieval Germanic poetry, including Gottfried von Strassburg's version of Tristan, the Nibelunglied and Wolfram von Eschenbach's Parzival, left a large impact on the German Romantic movements during the mid-19th century. The story of Tristan and Isolde is a quintessential romance of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance. Several versions of the story exist, the earliest dating to the middle of the 12th century. Gottfried's version, part of the "courtly" branch of the legend, had a huge influence on later German literature.[2]
According to his autobiography, Mein Leben, Wagner decided to dramatise the Tristan legend after his friend, Karl Ritter, attempted to do so, writing that:
"He had, in fact, made a point of giving prominence to the lighter phases of the romance, whereas it was its all-pervading tragedy that impressed me so deeply that I felt convinced it should stand out in bold relief, regardless of minor details."[3]
This impact, together with his discovery of the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer in October 1854, led Wagner to find himself in a "serious mood created by Schopenhauer, which was trying to find ecstatic expression. It was some such mood that inspired the conception of a Tristan und Isolde."[4] Wagner wrote of his preoccupations with Schopenhauer and Tristan in a letter to Franz Liszt (December 16th 1854):
“Never in my life having enjoyed the true happiness of love I shall erect a memorial to this loveliest of all dreams in which, from the first to the last, love shall, for once, find utter repletion. I have devised in my mind a Tristan und Isolde, the simplest, yet most full-blooded musical conception imaginable, and with the ‘black flag’ that waves at the end I shall cover myself over – to die.”[5]
By the end of 1854, Wagner had sketched out all three acts of an opera on the Tristan theme, based on Gottfried von Strassburg's telling of the story. While the earliest extant sketches date from December 1856, it was not until August 1857, however, that Wagner began devoting his attention entirely to the opera, putting aside the composition of Siegfried to do so. On 20 August he began the prose sketch for the opera, and the libretto (or poem, as Wagner preferred to call it) was completed by September 18.[6] Wagner, at this time, had moved into a cottage built in the grounds of Wesendonck's villa, where, during his work on Tristan und Isolde, he became passionately involved with Mathilde Wesendonck. Whether or not this relationship was platonic remains uncertain. One evening in September of that year, Wagner read the finished poem of "Tristan" to an audience including his wife, Minna, his current muse, Mathilde, and his future mistress (and later wife), Cosima von Bülow.
By October 1857, Wagner had begun the composition sketch of the first Act. During November, however, he set five of Mathilde's poems to music known today as the "Wesendonck Lieder." This was an unusual move by Wagner, who almost never set his music to any libretto other than his own, and who was rarely inspired by anything other than a purely dramatic theme. Two of these songs were set to music which would later play important roles in Tristan, and Wagner marked them as "Studies for Tristan und Isolde". "Traume" uses a motif that forms the love duet in Act 2 of Tristan, while "Im Triebhaus" introduces a theme that later became the Prelude to Act 3 of Tristan.[7]
In April 1858 Wagner's wife Minna intercepted a note from Wagner to Mathilde, and, despite Wagner's protests that she was putting a "vulgar interpretation" on the note, she accused first Wagner and then Mathilde of unfaithfulness.[8] After enduring much misery, Wagner persuaded Minna, who had a heart condition, to rest at a spa while Otto Wesendonck took Mathilde to Italy. It was during the absence of the two women that Wagner began the composition sketch of the second Act of Tristan. However, Minna's return in July 1858 did not clear the air, and on August 17th, Wagner was forced to leave both Minna and Mathilde and move to Venice.
Wagner would later describe his last days in Zurich as "a veritable Hell." Minna wrote to Mathilde before departing for Dresden:
"I must tell you with a bleeding heart that you have succeeded in separating my husband from me after nearly twenty-two years of marriage. May this noble deed contribute to your peace of mind, to your happiness."[9]
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Re: Two most famous couples
by Blkdrgn V February 28th 2010, 6:32 am
Adam and Eve. I don't know who the last pair are...
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Re: Two most famous couples
by Yush February 28th 2010, 7:03 am
Kyo said, "Romeo and Juliet... Tristan and Isolde... Two couples with nearly same story who are known world-wide.
Who do you like more?" And by more, he meant between the two he mentioned.
Jeeeebus
Ish like warn-fest or something
Who do you like more?" And by more, he meant between the two he mentioned.
Jeeeebus
Ish like warn-fest or something
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Re: Two most famous couples
by Applejuice February 28th 2010, 9:26 am
Romeo and Juliet are waaaaay better known.
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Re: Two most famous couples
by Blkdrgn V February 28th 2010, 9:28 am
True, the author was a genius. Completely insane, but a genius.
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Re: Two most famous couples
by Applejuice February 28th 2010, 9:35 am
Haha. True. Tristan and Isolde are good too, but Romeo and Juliet are more famous... Well, thats how it is The Netherlandz
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Re: Two most famous couples
by Hiei February 28th 2010, 2:16 pm
Well I know Romeo and Juliet. Who are the other two? Henc R and J are more famous.^_^.
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Re: Two most famous couples
by Guest February 28th 2010, 2:19 pm
why would they warn them....kyo made a bullshit statement....and they just dont agree with that
they see some other couples as more famous
they see some other couples as more famous
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Re: Two most famous couples
by SuperLH February 28th 2010, 2:26 pm
yeah what he said......that guy up there ^^^^^^^^^^^
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Re: Two most famous couples
by toby_0204_toby February 28th 2010, 4:32 pm
hmmmmmmmm.,.
Cleopatra and Mark Anthony
is more famous (I think) than
Tristan and Isolde...
Cleopatra and Mark Anthony
is more famous (I think) than
Tristan and Isolde...
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Re: Two most famous couples
by KONaFrogg February 28th 2010, 7:40 pm
Natasha Rostova and Andrew Bolkonsky
Novel "War and Peace" by Lev Nikolayevich Tolstoy
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Novel "War and Peace" by Lev Nikolayevich Tolstoy
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Re: Two most famous couples
by ACE KyoUno February 28th 2010, 7:44 pm
no waiKONaFrogg wrote:Natasha Rostova and Andrew Bolkonsky
Novel "War and Peace" by Lev Nikolayevich Tolstoy
^^
they're not.
BTW I'm confused that you don't know Tristan and Isolde.
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Re: Two most famous couples
by KONaFrogg February 28th 2010, 7:45 pm
i know who is Tristan and Isolde -_-
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Re: Two most famous couples
by Little Jiraiya February 28th 2010, 9:10 pm
i dont even know tristan and isolde
so of course romeo and juliet -_-
so of course romeo and juliet -_-
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