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Post by Yush June 24th 2010, 12:55 pm

No, not opinions on it cuz it's finished xD, but opinions on how I should actual do it.

So yeah, I've only just found out that I can rly 'not feel my manga', since my artstyle and story don't exactly go together, especially with there being lots of body movements which I'm not too good at.....

SO

For now, let me ask, which genre should I go for, maybe even what basic idea/storyline, and the type of characters you'd like to see in it.

Right now, I've got ideas and strengths for:
- RomCom (Romance Comedy):
For this one, I won't do the typical lame-o in the middle of the ladies, but something far more realistic and would feel like something that would happen in real life, with personalities you'd recognize yourself. I could possibly add action to this, but not overdoing it.

- Supernatural, sci-fi:
Pretty much the concept I had before. I hadn't really revealed it to you guys, but I'll mention it later on. Nah fck it I'll say it now:
- QUICKLY.
overloads. Spiritual creatures who take an element and animal to gain their data. The 'Overload' then conquers a human being giving them their powers to survive. Overload survives with the human hosting it, and the human survives with the powers it is given. Story starts with a scientist discovering and studying them, trying to see if medicinal purposes and MORE elemental and animal powers work on the Overloads, but literally fails. Overloads are spread throughout the region, making new Overload users. This is how our characters come in. Leon Arwalker, my main guy, is the first to get it. he gets fire and some other animal, and quickly trains by himself. He has this history with his family where he usually runs away from home, finally meeting our second character, Evan, who is getting beat up by dudes who despised him for his sister dying of exhaustion. leon, with his training, owns the dudes (except for one guy so he gets beaten up himself pretty badly) and they become best friends. Evan lives in the rural area, and Leon's rich since he's the son of the scientist. There's the whole WHOA, THE CITY thing when they get to the city, and they become like a duo. Evan's mighty kind, and Leon's silent and shy. Overload users are then treated as celebrities and Leon gets attention in the city.

years later:
Evan shows affection for a nerdy but beautiful chick. She gets involved in an Overload attack (where the user is possessed by the overload and the overload wins. user is attacked with his worst fear during the overload attack) and Leon, instead of Evan, saves her. he gets jealous and wishes for an Overload himself, which he apparently gets, giving him the element of water. Although when that very overload attacked him, the overload's own consciousness kept on popping up, as if they both hadn't controlled each other (kinda like the Kyuubi). So it becomes like a thing that keeps on occuring in the manga. Also, the girl that Evan liked turns out to be a wind user, so yeah, she's like an epic chick as well.

later:
Another chick comes in, who's rly cheery and shizz. She's going to be the lightning user, which Evan falls in love with since he gave up hope on the nerdy chick. Cliche; the nerdy chick starts to like Evan when he starts doing good stuff for the cheery chick. Then we get a little arguing from Evan and Nerd. There'll be some discussions on love as well between Leon and Evan, and then the 5 guardians come in.

The 5 guardians could be something like the strongest overload users, and Leon will be invited to join. This is how he meets Cerey, who is the most powerful wind user. They get along RLY well, since they have the same traits. The EXACT same ones. And so the story carries on...

Sandy didn't want to show you guys. But here it is, since we kinda need an opinion now on what should happen.
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Post by Eredale June 24th 2010, 2:30 pm

Wind!
Earth!
Fire!
Water!
Lightning!
With these 5 powers combined, I am... Oh wait, that's from somewhere else...
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Post by .Omen June 24th 2010, 2:40 pm

Do you want ot hear MY opinion on this bull.....I mean story?
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Post by Ksarme June 24th 2010, 2:42 pm

Eredale wrote:Wind!
Earth!
Fire!
Water!
Lightning!
With these 5 powers combined, I am... Oh wait, that's from somewhere else...

No, no, no. Wrong order. Go and watch Captain Planet again.
And
WHERE IS HEART?! oh shit


Ontopic: First would fit your style more, one thought though: don't do it like in real life. Nobody will want to read that.
Second sounds... a bit repetitive, but fun, but if you don't want to...

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Post by Magnamancy June 24th 2010, 4:50 pm

Hmmm.

Following the supernatural idea...

~Suggestions~

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Post by Yush June 25th 2010, 6:51 am

Magnamancy wrote:Hmmm.

Following the supernatural idea...

~Suggestions~

~Regarding the concept of Overloads~

Calling the things 'Overloads' should lead to something other than a move,
How about when they cross into our dimension or whatever term you
want to use, they are unbalanced energy wise due to the differing natures
between where they're from and here.
Good stuff

This causes them to need to immediately absorb local 'energies' to sustain
themselves, the initial location's ambient 'energies' align the creature's
nature to the most prominent element.
Naturally, the things would search out sources of energy, as the
environment cannot provide enough to sustain them for long periods.
Yuhp, that's also a good idea

They can't handle a sentient being as thier first host because it overloads
thier own form, so thier first host would normally be a local animal.
A bit like a stepping stone.
Mmkay

As with the ambient energies, the things would take on characteristics of
the creatures, this is essentially an unintentional evolving process.
The host doesn't last long though, as now severe imbalances within the
animal caused by the presence of the thing are wrecking it internally and
mentally.
Mmkay

With the death of the animal, the thing now needs another host, and low
and behold, Sentient life hosts are now viable for the things.
Here a balance can be struck more often than at either of the previous
stages, allowing symbiotic life, with the things basically living off the energy
and the host gaining the defense of the natures of the things.
Yuhp, that's where I was getting at.

If a balance isn't struck here, either the thing or the sentient life overloads
the other, resulting in whatever you want.
Ok

~Regarding Plot~

Random immediate training? Perhaps a trait like ambition or power lust would
prompt a believable character to train after a period of accustomization
to both the concept and nature of being a host to the thing.
It aint random, I just didn't mention it xD
It would be due to him wanting to get somewhere in life, without having to follow the path his father had layed out for him.
In his case, a more normal life, where he can experience excitement and of course, love. Of course he'd have more advantage with powers,
since then he'd be awesome physically, and could possibly use this for many other things.

Also, he'd have knowledge of the Overloads after seeing his father toy around with them. If you get powers, what would you immediately do? Test them out. Therefore, leading to 'training', or Leon getting to know himself better.


Evan's background and introduction could use some tweaking, it's at odds
with his character and makes the situation seem strange.
Did I type the plot up too fast or something? Well I didn't necessarily get into detail cuz I was rushing, so:
- Evan, who lived in a rural area, had an elder sister who had to take care of him when their parents died. Since they had lived in a rural area, the community was tight, and everyone knew everyone. Now let's say that Evan's sister gets rather stressed from helping out and being kind to everyone, and that Evan's needs cause her death. Of course, her admirers would get pissed off with that idea, and them blaming Evan would lead to bullying. Coincidentally, Leon just happens to be passing by.

Now you see, even if Leon hadbeen training, he'd still be a kid, and he'd still get beaten up by these guys. He also wouldn't be able to use his powers too good yet, but he'd still have some moves up his sleeves.


Celebrities is a bit random. The public tends to fear what it doesn't
understand, Hadron Collider Doomsday hype for instance.
Perhaps just the ones that make good with what powers they gain
become accepted/popular for the most part.
I can't see a mean guy with lightning cannons for hands to be popular
for instance. =/
Everyone would know the 5 best guys, but they won't all be celebs that are GOOD with the people. A villain could still be 'popular' and known by everybody.



~Praise~


I do like a fair few things (anything and everything I didn't mention above [My manga] Akai Sora Opinions Icon_razz
I'm serious), and it's got the makings of severe coolness, good luck. Wink[/spoiler]

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Now everyone else is just mentioning crap; you guys aren't giving out ideas at all. I didn't say that I'd fully decided on going with the supernatural idea...
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Post by Yush June 25th 2010, 9:05 am

We want something more realistic and just has barely enough power-shizz to make it good
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Post by Magnamancy June 25th 2010, 10:09 am

I'm glad you like a few of my suggestions. ^^

Thanks for explaining the plot bits too, I was just a bit concerned that it
wasn't going to be as 'believable' as it could be. But no, it's looking good. Smile

Good luck. Wink
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Post by Yush June 26th 2010, 12:09 am

So...no one literally wants anything else? No Mystery, no Gore, no Ecchi or whatever?
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Post by Magnamancy June 26th 2010, 10:26 am

I'm not into Ecchi or Gore or whatever when trying to read a good story,
but then again you're never going to please everyone.

Make it to your own tastes, and others can either deal with it or leave it, eh?

If you compensate too much for what others want, you can lose what you
wanted to do in the first place.
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Post by Yush June 26th 2010, 1:01 pm

Hrrm...I guess so. But everybody says I'm good with improvisation and creativity, so any topic would be alright for me
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