Re: Mafia (Round 4, Citizen Victory)

by **Divisor XII** December 13th 2010, 7:19 pm

Sata and Ere, are you signing up?
It's not very obvious from your posts...

by **Satamino** December 13th 2010, 7:24 pm

Yes i am

by Squirrel December 13th 2010, 7:59 pm

sign me in again =D

by **Eredale** December 13th 2010, 8:47 pm

Sign me up, ye

by **Riki X** December 13th 2010, 10:18 pm

I'm signing up : D

by **VASH_k** December 13th 2010, 10:29 pm

Me 2 don't forget me !
I what to be in the next round !

by Boss December 13th 2010, 11:05 pm

Back in this one.

by **rockalex** December 14th 2010, 8:56 pm

i sign in too

by **Divisor XII** December 14th 2010, 11:18 pm

Rite, so up until now, we have:

1. Sarnicone
2. Skeggisomething
3. Domin
4. Nakato
5. Satamino
6. vzzooro
7. Lightninger
8. Nave
9. itachixsasuke
10. Axer
11. Squirrel
12. Eredale
13. Royal
14. VASH_k
15. Boss
16. rockalex

Anybody else? We begin tomorrow.

by Skeggiold December 14th 2010, 11:21 pm

Divisor wrote:
2. Skeggisomething

lmao Divisor.

Can I be the host of the next round?

by **Divisor XII** December 14th 2010, 11:25 pm

By next, if you mean the one after this round, then yes.

by Skeggiold December 14th 2010, 11:50 pm

Divisor wrote:By next, if you mean the one after this round, then yes.

Exactly what I meant. Thanks...

by **Riki X** December 15th 2010, 12:57 am

I have a question, Mafia members get a list of who is in the Mafia + the spy right? But do Mafia members also get a list of what the citizens roles are?

Also, are the sheriff and spy allowed to openly announce their role and tell everyone who the mafia is?

by Skeggiold December 15th 2010, 1:00 am

xRoyalSinx X wrote:I have a question, Mafia members get a list of who is in the Mafia + the spy right? But do Mafia members also get a list of what the citizens roles are?

Also, are the sheriff and spy allowed to openly announce their role and tell everyone who the mafia is?

Mafia doesn't get the list of Citizens' roles.

You can announce your role, but it's up to people to believe in you or not. And Sheriff can't show their discoveries to people, nor the Spy.

by **Divisor XII** December 15th 2010, 1:20 am

Yes they can.
But it comes with a risk...a mafia member can declare him being a sheriff and lie about the mafia...if the people believe him, it helps mafia.
Same with the spy.

Nor the spy or sheriff can talk about their discoveries when they are dead though.

by Skeggiold December 15th 2010, 1:26 am

Wait, but they can when they are alive?
Ah ok.
Again, the "belief" thing.

by **Riki X** December 15th 2010, 1:36 am

But then, it's kind of cheap if your the spy though. Because if you announce whoever is the mafia, the mafia will kill you because you are revealing who they are, and when they kill you, it is revealed that you are a spy, and then the citizens will go back and find out who the mafia are. I think spiy shouldn't be allowed to tell people who the mafia are.

by **Divisor XII** December 15th 2010, 1:55 am

Then the Mafia should leave the spy alone.

Think about it:
The spy reveals the Mafia list.
The mafia does not kill the spy.
Citizens think Mafia is faking the list because the spy hasn't been killed.
Mafia knows who the spy is, and can arrange the killings between each other.

Moreover, since the spy appears as Mafia when the Sheriff checks him, he will have some hard time convincing people that he is the real spy and not a fake one, planted by mafia.

In the end, it all comes down to whether you are able to convince the citizens or not.

by **Riki X** December 15th 2010, 2:16 am

Yeah, but the citizens can arrange to have him voted off to see if he is really the spy, because I'm pretty sure all citizens would vote to kill one of their own if it would tell them who the mafia are

Also, if the spy decides to keep quiet, and other citizens are trying to vote him off, just before he is lynched he could announce all the members of the mafia and the mafia wouldn't be able to do anything

by **Divisor XII** December 15th 2010, 2:31 am

Well, I guess it could be changed so the spy learns about the identity of one mafia every two turns or something, so that he gets this knowledge eventually (kind of like the sheriff) and not all at once.

by **Riki X** December 15th 2010, 2:33 am

Yea that would be abit more fair I guess

by **Divisor XII** December 15th 2010, 2:35 am

He learns automatically of course, so the host decides which mafia should he reveal to him...and the spy won't know who is the godfather too.

*updating the rules*

by Nave I December 15th 2010, 1:43 pm

why not using the lfe-rules?

Spy: Citizen side. He appears in the Mafia list at the beginning of the game but himself doesn't know the other Mafia. Usually there is no way for Mafia to figure out who is the Spy, but when checked by the sheriff, he appears innocent. So sometimes it might be a good idea for the Sheriff not to reveal the innocence of the Spy, as the Mafia could expose him then.
(You might ask how this role comes useful then; well, you can be assured Mafia won't target you at night.)
(With a Spy in the game, as Mafia it might sometimes be cleverer to refrain from communicating with each other until the Spy is exposed; use the 3 votes PM to the host instead.)

by **Divisor XII** December 15th 2010, 2:19 pm

Wait...this is in the rules that I copy-pasted too...so there is no problem actually *facepalm

Anyway, registrations closed.
Check the new thread, this one is now locked.

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