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Post by Rhino.Freak February 6th 2012, 7:16 am

well.. i can say that the rules are not bad! Smile keep it up!
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Post by Guest February 6th 2012, 9:22 am

Dude thanks but rules are rules after all. There isn't any standard level of Rules.

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Post by Hiei February 7th 2012, 5:44 am

You mean credits to S ?
Smippa = S still his current name is S.
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Post by Guest February 7th 2012, 5:46 am

Okay edited it. That wasn't a big deal.

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Post by deepseabyrd February 7th 2012, 5:24 pm

no pein unless youre from the raincountry?
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Post by Guest February 7th 2012, 5:31 pm

It was the rule before and most of the Rain country members don't play NTSD. Pein actually isn't allowed in the actual matches as it is a secret char and none of the secret chars are allowed to play. And yeah the Pein thing was only for the matches that will be played by Rain Country when they are VSing their own country members.

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Post by Guest March 10th 2012, 4:00 pm

There is no 20 sec rule uberserious

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Post by Guest March 10th 2012, 4:05 pm

Added the 'spam' rule to the rules.

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Post by Guest March 10th 2012, 4:28 pm

Hey, you cant just change the rules like that O.o

Btw do you mean 20sec in lf2 clock or in real time clock?

Eg, you could use sasuke's AJ twice, then wait 20 sec and use it again?
Imo it really breaks the game.


Last edited by S on March 10th 2012, 4:35 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : more thoughts)

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Post by Hiei March 10th 2012, 7:02 pm

That 20 seconds rule existed to avoid spam .
Let me give a clear example . You are Gaara .
You use D^A , D^A , then use D>A to avoid spam and immediately use D^A , D^A and again DvJ and followed by
D^A , D^A then DvA and continue the pattern of 2 D^A followed by 1 jutsu and then carry it on .

To avoid that thebiggestboss had added the 20 seconds gap rule in bounty games and I remember it correctly as well .

The 20 seconds gap is ofc of real clock as real clock 20 seconds can be counted by both the players and its same for both the players . Its like a Standard Unit .



So , Alucard isn't making up any rule . I remember it existed and I am sure LJ or Nakato probably remember that rule especially Nakato since he always used to tell me u over use Gaara's D^A without any 20 seconds gap . Razz
Moreover when I had defeated Nave in bounty he had made an issue of this rule saying u never waited for 20 second and all . So , I remember that rule existed .
Anyways is there any problem of the 20 second gap rule ?
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Post by Guest March 11th 2012, 3:12 pm

Yes there is.

If the game lags a lot (like 1 sec in game means 5 sec in real life) You can use same jutsu over and over again with 4 sec cooldown?

Why are we making this game more complicated than it is?
No, "the rule" is not valid if game lags much.
And moreover, there rules are more directional rules than "the holy laws"

If two members (who happen to be brothers, nepotism) want to make a rule, they cant decide it like that and then add that to official rules.


Ankit Reborn wrote:
You use D^A , D^A , then use D>A to avoid spam and immediately use D^A , D^A and again DvJ and followed by
D^A , D^A then DvA and continue the pattern of 2 D^A followed by 1 jutsu and then carry it on .
Does anyone really use strategies like this? Really? Its fine if you use jutsu x twice, then y->z->b and then use x again. Of course there is a flaws, but you don't have to abuse them. Some characters doesnt have that much jutsues (eg. kiba, 5 different) and they are forced to broke this "rule" if they don't want to run around and spend some quality time.


Btw, I tell everyone that I just lost to ankit brothers, some times vs cobra (like 4-7 or something) and then 5-2 to ankit.
They are abusing this 20 sec rule, and its kind of ruin the fun from this game.
And if you are counting, and your opponent "breaks" this "rule", The opponent can just say that: "I counted to 20, its fine." After this, its your word against the opponent's word. So its impossible to make it fair by real time clock. Lf2 clock is also useless, since you can only see the clock after game.

(I lost to ankit)
In lightning, we don't use sharingan in matches, its really op when game lags, we don't spam and if someone accidently spams or use sharingan, its not that big deal.
We don't play for victory, we play for fun.

(I lost to ankit)
Moreover, this is a simply, broken game (because of need of these rules).

(I lost to ankit)
If this "rule" is stays for now one, I will use only one jutsu in games. I'll use it twice, then run around for x seconds and then do it again. It really makes the game more balanced (are more fun).

By the way, If you are using russian lobby version, there is a bug. The only item that drops from sky is following shuriken, and if the game takes more that 2min, there is ~6 following shurikens in the ground and you can easily just run and throw them. "Do not use following shurikens more than 3 times (preferably less), since its just a bug which breaks the game even more.)
I suggest that some respected member (with grey name) will make official rules thread so it can't be changed secretly.
(I lost to ankit & cobra)
I'm so mad now, I can't even bear my anger and hate. My psyche is broken ass well.

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Post by Hiei March 11th 2012, 3:29 pm

1. I never took a sharingan user in our 7 games . I took Sasori 5 times and once I took Gaara and once I took Deidara .
2. You lost 5-2 , so wut ? Its just a game no big deal .You play for fun and not victory right ?
3.I am not making this rule , it did exist . Secondly during our 7 games I never said anything regarding 20 seconds gap . I never said you broke any rule did I ? So , why did you write 'THEY' abuse the 20 seconds rule ?
Don't know if Alucard said so while playing against you ..
4. Grey users mostly don't play so it has to be sorted out by other colored users .

I remember that rule existed . It would be kind of Nakato or LJ to post here if they remember that rule existed or not .

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Post by Guest March 11th 2012, 3:56 pm

Ankit Reborn wrote:1. I never took a sharingan user in our 7 games . I took Sasori 5 times and once I took Gaara and once I took Deidara .
2. You lost 5-2 , so wut ? Its just a game no big deal .You play for fun and not victory right ?
3.I am not making this rule , it did exist . Secondly during our 7 games I never said anything regarding 20 seconds gap . I never said you broke any rule did I ? So , why did you write 'THEY' abuse the 20 seconds rule ?
Don't know if Alucard said so while playing against you ..
4. Grey users mostly don't play so it has to be sorted out by other colored users .

I remember that rule existed . It would be kind of Nakato or LJ to post here if they remember that rule existed or not .

I didn't say that you played with sasuke. I just said that sharingan should be banned.
The fun disappeares if your opponent plays cheap.
Atleast cobra abused that rule.
Grey users don't have more authority than 12 year old boy. They don't change them by whim.
The 20 second rule is invalid, and so other one too.

And I said that you won me since you often cling to your ntsd results.

Btw, you ignored the my arguments, and focused to my dictions. Try to post again.

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Post by Rhino.Freak March 11th 2012, 4:40 pm

yes. sharingan is annoying crappy and assy! i removed it in my game uberserious
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Post by Guest March 11th 2012, 4:49 pm

Did I find myself being mentioned in the S's post as a 'cheap' or 'abuser of rule' player? Hmm.... in what way did I abuse the rule? And what rule are you talking about? The 20 seconds one? I hope not as you'll be proved wrong. Why so? Just because I used the jutsu twice and then thrice after using other jutsus even after 20 seconds gap. About sharingan being banned, is it just because of the lags? Then you might as well stop playing. Why? Because lags will occur naturally, you can't stop it. If you could have stopped it then it wouldn't have taken even a single second to be like the God of the online games as almost everyone faces lag problems when they fight with someone who lives away from their country. About making and changing rules, did I make the rules? Did I change them? Did I abuse them? Hmm....? The rules were made by littlebob. The lag rule was also cleared and then changed by The Biggestboss. You can just count me in, in the rules case as a member who just revives the rule for the members other than changing it or abusing it. Why would I need to change the rules for myself? To win? I ain't lacking of victories and I know the real fact of life and that is that, how long the night might be, it can't hide the sun to rise. After victories, you'll find defeats and after defeats, you'll find something even better than victories. This is what I wanted to clear.

About the 20 seconds rule, the lag might cause the match to seem like 50 mins to you but even after the match is over, you'll find the match to be 15 mins in the stats of the match. Follow the 20 seconds rule with the help of the real clock as clocks are our standard times. 60 seconds won't change and be 54 seconds for some as the clock shows current and accurate time for everyone....everyone. If you got some problems with the rules, feel free to speak about it but make sure whether you're right or not.

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Post by Guest March 11th 2012, 5:23 pm

Mr.Alucard wrote:
About the 20 seconds rule, the lag might cause the match to seem like 50 mins to you but even after the match is over, you'll find the match to be 15 mins in the stats of the match. Follow the 20 seconds rule with the help of the real clock as clocks are our standard times. 60 seconds won't change and be 54 seconds for some as the clock shows current and accurate time for everyone....everyone. If you got some problems with the rules, feel free to speak about it but make sure whether you're right or not.

I'm surprised that you played the lag card thumbs up

You know that it is impossible to synchronize real time to random lag game.
I'm also surprised that you didn't understand this problem.
Of course insane lag makes the counting impossible.

Why?
I'll try to explain it -a lot- simplier way.
When you charge chakra when you play alone, it takes ~4 seconds to get full chakra.
When the game lags, it can take... 10-20 secs.
The time passes, even when you lag.
So is it possible to use same amount of jutsues in 20 (lag) seconds than in 80 normal seconds?
Also, there is a change that the lag changes, so its suddenly x5 and then x7 etc.
The answer is no.
So the rule is invalid.
If you count to 20, the game only moves same amount that you use for charging chakra.
If ankit you understood this, please explain it to your little brother.

Yes you changed them without a valid reason, before I started this conversation.
And to be honest, I have no problem with lag. I just don't like it when people use lag to get advance.


Mr.Alucard wrote:To win? I ain't lacking of victories and I know the real fact of life and that is that, how long the night might be, it can't hide the sun to rise. After victories, you'll find defeats and after defeats, you'll find something even better than victories. This is what I wanted to clear.
Really? :----D

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Post by Hiei March 11th 2012, 5:30 pm

I get it and yea Alucard before adding any rule you should discuss by making topic .
I suggest remove 20 seconds rule immediately and make a topic to see what majority have to say regatding 20 seconds rule . Make a poll and if majority accept re add it or else just forget it .
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Post by Guest March 11th 2012, 5:35 pm

I'll say, I'll change the rule after hearing to what others will say about it. I'll create the topic about this discussion after sometime. @S, I care about your thoughts but I sometimes feel that they are unusual......anyways.

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Post by Guest March 11th 2012, 6:10 pm

So you didn't understand it? uberserious

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Post by Guest March 11th 2012, 6:12 pm

S wrote:So you didn't understand it? uberserious

Did I say so? Moreover, I understood what you wrote at the first time. I was clearing what was in my mind. Anyways, there is going to be a voting about that rule and I hope that no one is having any problem about it.

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Post by Guest March 11th 2012, 6:31 pm

Ok,
Soon I will ask for rule, which bans every character except deidara.
Then I will create 20 fake accounts and wait for voting.
Good plan.

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Post by G man March 11th 2012, 6:33 pm

S wrote:Ok,
Soon I will ask for rule, which bans every character except deidara.
Then I will create 20 fake accounts and wait for voting.
Good plan.

Or you'll ask your BFFs for help! Razz
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Post by Guest March 11th 2012, 6:36 pm

S wrote:Ok,
Soon I will ask for rule, which bans every character except deidara.
Then I will create 20 fake accounts and wait for voting.
Good plan.

I suggest you to keep your plans within yourself if you have any.


Anyways, Avoid offtopic here.

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Post by its confirmed again March 11th 2012, 6:38 pm

Mr.Alucard wrote:there is going to be a voting














i vote for osbama

he is the white supremacist one right?
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Post by Guest March 12th 2012, 11:04 am

I prefer the term racialist

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